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Talia Hoit dives deep into symphonic metal with her debut solo album Oceans. In this interview, she shares the inspiration behind its oceanic themes and her creative journey.

1. "Oceans" draws heavily from the thematic richness of the sea. What inspired you to explore the ocean as a central theme for your new album, and how does it connect to the emotions you're expressing?

The inspiration came from the song “Ocean” and a realization that I had written many songs over the years with ocean related themes in the lyrics that could make for a cohesive concept for an album. All the songs were written independently of each other at different time in my life, but then I selected them to go on this album because of their common themes.  When I had decided to start my solo project officially, my song “Ocean” was one of the songs I really wanted to work on with a professional producer. But then I started thinking about all the other songs I had written over the years that also had ocean themes to the lyrics. So I looked through all my old songs and selected more of them to include for a full-length album around the ocean theme. 

2. The title track, "Ocean," is both the first single and the emotional core of the album. Could you tell us more about how the song came together and what emotions or experiences shaped its creation?

It was a long time ago, so I don’t remember the exact process, although I do remember exactly where I was when I wrote the words!  I was missing someone who was traveling and had left thinking that I didn’t really care about him as much as I did, so that’s what the lyrics are about, and what similar kind of story we tried to portray in the video. I think I wrote the words first and then sat down at the piano sometime later and improvised some things until the words and melody and accompaniment became a song. Like many of my songs, I didn’t write it for the purpose of creating a song to present to the public as a musical artist.  I wrote it because writing is my way of processing things in my life and my feelings, kind of like journalling, but I usually always hear music along with the words in my thoughts. It was just a piano/vocal song at first, although I tried to create a full band arrangement a few other times before working with a producer on the final version for this album.  The arpeggios in the music in the intro was supposed to be a musical motif for the waves in the ocean. 

3. Your music blends symphonic metal with deeply introspective lyrics. How do you balance the orchestral arrangements and the heavy, darker tones to evoke the complexities of human emotions?

I deliberately selected symphonic metal for the genre of this album because it resonates with me, my musical background, and musical tastes, and I feel like the style supports my lyrical themes well. I love the orchestral instruments so much because you can express so many things, and the heavier guitars and drums help to create the right intensity and mood for what my songs are about, at least in my opinion and for how I feel it as an artist.  The orchestration is something people probably expect from me and for my music, but the heavy music component is what people don't expect as much.  I feel like it's needed for my songs, whenever I hear my songs without that piece, it doesn't feel right to me. That balance is always dependent on what the song is trying to express.  There have been times when a song has a great arrangement but it just doesn't fit the emotion of the lyrics and so we have to add more heaviness or add more orchestration or change the tone of the instrument to evoke the right feels for what the song is about.  Regarding this particular album, it should be noted that although I do personally write a lot of orchestrations for symphonic metal in my other band and some forthcoming solo project music, the music arrangement specifically for "Oceans" was mostly in the hands of my producer, Frank Pitters, who I had wanted to work with because of his specialty focus on this genre.  These songs on “Oceans” are mostly much older songs of mine that I had never yet produced to share publicly, many of which I wrote before even knowing symphonic metal was a thing. I provided him piano/vocal demos that he would expand into the full band arrangement. We worked together on deciding what ideas would fit best, but the great arrangement you hear on this album should really be credited to his amazing talent!


4. Working with a stellar lineup of musicians like Mat Plekhanov, Roland Navratil, and Max Stoner must have brought unique elements to the album. How did these collaborations shape the overall sound of “Oceans"?

These guys made all the difference in the world to the overall sound of my album. Their performances are really impressive to me, and of course they are expert professionals and specialize in this style of music. I think the sound of the album was really impacted both by their experience with this style of music as well as their skills as musicians. It definitely turned out so much more amazing than I had hoped for.  Max did a really great job with the guitars and bass to make my songs feel driving and more metal while still conveying the underlying feel of how I originally intended the songs.  I’m a big fan of guitar solos and the ones that Mat recorded for the album are so expressive and you can tell they are very technically challenging but it still sounds effortless, and each one really fits the mood of the songs well. Roland is a really great drummer, everything is so tight with the music and drives everything forward with the right energy and heaviness in different places, not to mention very cool drum fills.  And again I would have to say that the producer Frank Pitters was really the key to the overall sound, because we worked together for a long time on the music arrangements first, and then these particular musicians were his choices for the final recorded performances. Frank also created and performed all the orchestrations and keyboards outside of a few parts of my original keyboard midi files that I think we kept from the demos.

5. With ten tracks, the album covers a broad spectrum of emotions, from love and loss to triumph and steadfastness. Was there a particular song on "Oceans" that challenged you the most creatively or emotionally?

Yes, there was actually another 11th song intended for this album which never made it over to my producer because I got too stuck on it to be able to finish the last part of the lyrics, and so I put that song away for another time!  But I have to be honest that all the songs were challenging for me in different ways. For example, the song Beautiful was one I never originally intended to show anyone let alone record it and release publicly, so I had to get over that.  The song Infinity was one that I had made a demo for a long time ago, but the first friend I showed it to told me it was not any good, so I did not touch it again for years until I decided I personally still liked it and wanted to try it for the album.  But I won’t lie, I was actually scared at first to send it to my producer, but then it ended up becoming one of my favorite songs on this album. VastDeep was challenging because I always had the words and melody that I would sing with music in my head, but had never written or created any actual musical accompaniment for it in reality yet, so I had to try to create a demo from scratch to send over to the producer that would communicate the feel of the music I heard in my brain that had never existed in actual sound waves before. And then of course all of the lyrics and stories behind the songs are emotional so I would never know if it was going to affect me or not while recording my vocals.  I generally did ok keeping composure, but maybe a few times when listening back to things in the studio I was happy the sound engineer would step outside for a minute and hopefully not see me crying a little.

6. The ocean is often seen as a metaphor for both beauty and danger. Do you see parallels between the unpredictability of the sea and your own journey as a musician?

Yes, for sure.  Everything in my musical life lately has been completely unpredictable and nothing has gone according to plan. I have struggled to even get the plan in place a lot of times because everything changes when you least expect it, or things go awry, but then sometimes the unexpected turns out to be an amazing opportunity or something really great.  More often than not, it’s stormy seas, and then you get somewhere for a little bit that’s like the beautiful sunset on calm waves. 


7. You’ve mentioned that you want listeners to feel the music deeply, much like the ocean's depths. How do you hope your audience will connect with the themes of "Oceans" on a personal level?

I really do hope that people connect with songs on a personal level since all the themes of the lyrics are about personal things.  It’s great of course if the music serves to entertain people, but that wasn’t the main purpose for which I wrote the songs or why I was motivated to try to get them professionally produced and share them publicly. Of course I will never probably know how my music impacts people, I just hope that for some it brings some sort of meaningful experience they can resonate with.

8. As someone who has been classically trained from a young age, how has your background in classical music influenced your approach to songwriting in the symphonic metal genre?

I think my background is the reason why symphonic metal resonates with me a lot.  I do like other styles of metal also, but since I don’t play heavy guitars or do heavy vocals I end up being more of a listener and fan than a musician in those styles. The keyboards and more classical or clean vocals are the ways I can actually contribute in the making of the music. So I think it’s not so much that the classical background influences me in symphonic metal songwriting but rather that the symphonic metal genre gives me a place for my songs and a place to be creative in my own way, because for a long time I was writing things that did not seem to fit anywhere. My themes and lyrics need heavier and more intense and darker music than the classical or pop or singer/songwriter styles can handle, but my singing, playing and songwriting is very melodic and classically influenced so it needs a genre that embraces the pianos and cellos and melodic vocal lines and things like that. Also, in my other band and in some upcoming solo music, I am composing the full orchestrations, and I like to approach it like I’m creating scores as if there could someday be an actual orchestra that could play along with the metal band versus the software instrument tracks.

9. Looking forward, with the release of "Oceans" on November 21st, 2024, what are your hopes for this album in terms of its reception, and what can fans expect from your future musical projects?

 This may sound funny, but first I am hoping that a lot of people will actually get to hear it with there being so much noise and oversaturation of music in the streaming sites and social media and everywhere.  It is my first commercially released solo album, so I am working hard that I can find ways to get it out there to as many people as possible to be able to hear. I absolutely hope people will enjoy it and resonate with it and am wishing for a lot of people to enjoy discovering a new artist for the first time.  I also really hope people will want more music because there is actually a next recording that is already presently happening in the studio! Also, fans can expect some performances, as I have been working hard with some awesome friends to bring this music to the stage in the near future with a live band! 


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